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Offline rehammes

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Race strategy
« on: November 09, 2006, 06:42:33 PM »
It has been just over a month since the Lakefront Marathon and I have just under a month until the California Int'l Marathon.  Since I did not meet my goal at the LFM, I really want to make a run at 2:50.  I'm starting to put my game plan together but I just want a little guidance.  I'd like to know what works best for everyone in terms of a pre-race routine.  By pre-race, I suppose I mean the entire taper in terms of training, diet, rest etc.  I know that so much of this is personal preference, but I would be very interested in hearing what others have found works best.  I have never been able to master the taper.  I always seem to go into my goal race with too much rest where my legs don't feel fresh, they feel sluggish.  Too much pasta in my diet always leaves me feeling hungry.  I haven't been able to time my hydration so I don't have to 'go' about five miles into the race. 

I'm feeling good right now, I think the training is there to hit the goal, I just want the right plan.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Race strategy
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 08:08:49 AM »
I don't have time at the moment to read the links GTF is offering but, given the location, I'm sure they offer some very sound advice that I wouldn't want to (and hope I don't) disagree with. I'll be sure to read them later and I hope to find that what I'm about to state doesn't contradict what is stated there.

A couple of comments based on my personal experience.

First, the taper. While three weeks works for many people, especially after a very long period of intense training, I've actually found that a 10-14 day taper works better for myself personally. I just think three weeks is too long for me. Given the fact that you already tapered it sounds like for 3 weeks for Lakefront and then probably took some recovery time after Lakefront, you probably don't need another full 3 week taper this time around. I'd at least consider shortening it to 2 weeks.

Second, the pasta thing. Yes, we should make sure we get plenty of good carbs but I'm still a proponent of a balanced diet. Mix a little chicken or turkey into your spaghetti sauce and top it with some parmesean cheese. It will taste much better and be more filling, while still getting you a good amount of carbs. It will also give you some protein, which a runner shouldn't skimp on at any point in time.
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Re: Race strategy
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 05:01:23 PM »
those articles are great...find what works for you... that's what long runs are for... I would think that for most the typical stuff is fine for most people...

I have had good tapers that were 3 weeks and a good one that was 2 weeks (it was a mistake, but it worked out)... I think the idea that I've seen with Pfitz & others is that you cut volume but not intensity (I work with a coach and that is the plan I'm following now)... my miles have been cut back and I'm doing track twice a week with longer intervals (2 x 2400 at MP for example or 4 x 1600 at MP)...

diet stays basicly the same as my mileage cut balances out the similar calories, if I carb loaded (I've trid it) my legs & gu feel like concrete... last year a nutritionist I went to suggested cutting out gluten/yeast (basicly no bread or pasta) so I eat rice or potatoes and my protein source is fish which seems to digest easier for me...

I am also very weird in that I usually skip breakfast so all I've been doing is having my usual cup of tea and then sipping on a bottle of gatorade for the first five miles or so of the race... seems to keep me out of the portolet and clear of the first & sometime second water stop... so far only tested fully on two half marathons, a half marathon with a five mile warm up and one 20+ miler...oh and I've been using Accel Gel which has protein in it, I think my system just stays 'calmer' with it...

keep trying 'the usual' with a small tweak or two till you find the 'perfect' thing for you... eveyone has special needs... and needs can change if you get a hot day, be aware & flexible...

oh, and I try to get more sleep during my taper... done a few 10 hour nights this time around...good luck...
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