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Offline Ed 1

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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2004, 06:19:15 AM »
Are you a Frenchie my dear guest - cause then I could ask for your permission to instal a burglar alarm to help protect my family?
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2004, 12:02:37 PM »
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I know that most of you East Cost high society type do not know that there are large cities in the Mid-West but we do actually have more than just farms. A city like Milwaukee does not have nice pretty pastoral views.


and I know that the great people of Wisconsin are too sagacious (I hope that's not over your head, Ed) to be fooled by a charlatan like bush.

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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2004, 12:09:42 PM »
To avoid the subject change I'll return to the point - the big city does not have pastoral views hidden by the numerous help wanted signs.  

Oh and only a true compassionate liberal would wish for someone with a diabetic wife and two young children to lose their job.  Thanks for the compassion on behalf of my family.  

(Oh and nice use of the thesaurus.)
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2004, 06:18:02 PM »
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Are you a Frenchie my dear guest - cause then I could ask for your permission to instal a burglar alarm to help protect my family?


Why, do you fear or hate the French, Edward?

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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2004, 06:24:28 AM »
Not at all.  I am upset that people like my grandfather gave their lives to free them from Nazi occupation and they have the nerve to put money before American lives.  

Plus why would I fear an Army with the worst case of sunburned armpits in the world.
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2004, 08:29:05 AM »
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they have the nerve to put money before American lives


Cher Edouard, if the French have such nerve, then tell us why did they escort about 200 American kids and teachers in Cote d'Ivoire to safety? Didn't Bill O'Reilly mention this on his show? Why did they assist us in the bombing and ground campaigns in Afghanistan? Why are they providing information about al quaeda suspects to our CIA & FBI?

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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2004, 08:45:57 AM »
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Not at all.  I am upset that people like my grandfather gave their lives to free them from Nazi occupation and they have the nerve to put money before American lives.


What American lives would have been saved if the French had joined the U.S., Britain and others in the war against Iraq?  Would France's involvement had made the conflict less dangerous for American soldiers?  Spain pulled their soldiers out of Iraq.  Did that also risk American lives?  

The only change France's involvement would have had on the current situation is that more French lives would also be at risk.  Don't be angry with the French because they weren't mislead by President Bush's erroneous claims of WMD.  I realize that President Bush said that other countries are either with us or against us, but does that mean that everyone who questioned President Bush's claims of WMD are now our enemies?
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2004, 09:50:23 AM »
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Not at all.  I am upset that people like my grandfather gave their lives to free them from Nazi occupation and they have the nerve to put money before American lives.


What American lives would have been saved if the French had joined the U.S., Britain and others in the war against Iraq?


Instead of 1000+ American soldiers dead, we would have had 900+ American soldiers dead and 100 French soldiers dead. I believe the French government has more of a responsibility to its citizens and soldiers than to American citizens and soldiers, though, no matter what happened 60 years ago. After all, last I checked, France is a sovereign country. If they didn't feel that war was the answer, as most of the world didn't, they would have been foolish to send their soldiers into harms way.

Of course, I would have to question who is actually placing money before American lives. It couldn't be the large American corporations that are making big profits from government contracts in Iraq, could it?

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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2004, 12:24:57 PM »
If anyone believes what Senator Kerry stated in January and I know that most of you believe him, then his exact words were that, we are safer now that Saddam is captured.  

It is amazing that I should almost have to bring up the reasons that France, Germany and Russia were against the war - in fact I will not do it.  You can look it up it is in posts.

My question is - Russia was against pre-emptive strikes or at least they were in our case.  Now after the terrible tragedy of the school incident - they stated that they are going to do the same.  So is it right or wrong?
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2004, 12:38:43 PM »
This is my third request - can we give this a try?

So can we all start over and respond to a post I had about discussing each issue we see as important and come up with ideas to correct those issues? I would like to write to whomever wins the White House in November with those issues and ideas to solve them. If we an obviously spirited group can work together it could be the start of the Runner's Party. We would be better off with more than two party's in this Country like when our Founding Fathers founded it.
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2004, 01:00:56 PM »
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If anyone believes what Senator Kerry stated in January and I know that most of you believe him, then his exact words were that, we are safer now that Saddam is captured.


We are safer than before he was caught, but we are not safer than before the invasion of Iraq.


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It is amazing that I should almost have to bring up the reasons that France, Germany and Russia were against the war - in fact I will not do it.  You can look it up it is in posts.

My question is - Russia was against pre-emptive strikes or at least they were in our case.  Now after the terrible tragedy of the school incident - they stated that they are going to do the same.  So is it right or wrong?


You don't have to bring up the reasons that France, Germany, and Russia were against the war.  In fact, they don't even need a reason.  I agree with Ryan; those countries need to do what's best for their citizens.  

No one was against U.S. strikes in Afganistan following the attacks on 9/11.  It's the unrelated attacks in Iraq that a large percent of the world community was/is against.
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2004, 01:06:02 PM »
I'll take that as a NO.
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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2004, 01:07:17 PM »
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It is amazing that I should almost have to bring up the reasons that France, Germany and Russia were against the war


Ed, why don't you humor us and tell us what you think those reasons are? I'm sure they'll be quite entertaining if nothing else.

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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2004, 01:12:46 PM »
I'll take your respons as a NO as well.  Again, I stated (since you forgot to read my entire post) that those reasons are listed in earlier posts and I will not hash over them again.  But I'll take your answer to working as a group on issues as a NO.
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« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2004, 02:50:43 PM »
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I'll take your respons as a NO as well.  Again, I stated (since you forgot to read my entire post) that those reasons are listed in earlier posts and I will not hash over them again.  But I'll take your answer to working as a group on issues as a NO.


I read your entire post.  In fact, I read it three times.  I think we are working as a group.  That doesn't mean we have to agree with everything you say.  You're stating your opinions, and we're stating ours.  That's part of how a group works.  Face it, we're not going to get to the point where we all agree.

You're not playing on a level field if you give us your opinions and then complain that we're not acting as a group if we disagree with you.  Are we allowed equal time to give our opinions?  Or did you appoint yourself group leader, and the rest of us are supposed to just stand behind you and cheer loudly when you speak?
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