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After 3 poor attempts (3:20, 3:17 and 3:26), I took 3 years off for grad school. Then I followed one of the Daniels’ program and ran 3:03.
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February 2000 = 3:10:58
October 2000 = 2:45:19
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here’s my dirty dozen marathon’s and the miles run in the 12 wks prior…
TRAILBREAKER – MAR ’04 3:59 (553)
LAKEFRONT – OCT ’02 3:32 (546)
BOSTON APR ’02 3:24 (514)
LAKEFRONT – OCT ’01 3:08 (621)
LAKEFRONT – OCT ’00 3:18 (464)
GRANDMAS – JUN ’00 3:36 (414)
TRAILBREAKER – MAR ’00 3:44 (466)
LAKEFRONT – OCT ’99 4:00 (433)
CHICAGO – OCT ’97 3:28 (407)
LAKEFRONT – OCT ’96 3:33 (393)
LAKE COUNTY – APR ’96 3:32 (441)
LAKE COUNTY – APR ’95 3:27 (434)
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I’ve run 8 but the most time came off on the first three
Chicago 2000 – 3:45:17- 15 min negative split on the half
London 2001- 3:16:07
Chicago 2001- 2:59:58
Pfitz Program worked best for me 12 weeks 70 MPW or less
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Was it frustrating to have your first marathon be your PR for the next 5.5 years? It’s interesting to see your 12-week mileage next to your time. You must have done something different prior to Lakefront in 2000? You ran the similar mileage as in the past and still ran 18 minutes faster than earlier that year.
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My brief marathon bio…
2002 Forest City (London,ON) 4:40:41
2003 National Capital Marathon (Ottawa,ON) 4:12:01
And in 8 days the 2004 ING National Capital Marathon…
I am shooting for a 3:50 to 3:55
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The marathon roll call
97 3:20 Lakefront
98 2:54 Madison
98 2:57 Lakefront
99 3:00 Boston
99 3:00 Lakefront
00 3:19 Trailbreaker-Training run
00 3:04 Grandma’s
00 2:50 Lakefront
01 2:55 Boston
02 3:19 Trailbreaker-Training run
02 2:50 Boston
02 3:34 Lakefront-Cameron hands my ass to me 😈
03 2:57 Lakefront
04 3:32 Trailbreaker-Training run
And for the real fun 😆
00 7:43 Ice Age 50 mile
02 3:57 Ice Age 50K
04 8:28 Ice Age 50 mile
And now the realization, I’m out of my mind! PSKI
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My marathon history:
Long Island: 5/02 – 4:29 (45 mpw)
Mystic: 10/02 – 3:40 (50 mpw)
Long Island: 5/03 – 3:37 (55 mpw)
Mystic: 10/03 – 3:38 (60 mpw)
Philly: 10/03 – 3:58 (n/a)
Long Island: 5/04 – 3:29 (65 mpw)
I did Philly a few weeks after Mystic to experience an ‘event’. I wanted to try running with a large field in a big city. I ran at a training pace while recovering from Mystic.
My time, not counting Mystic 03 and Phily 03 (I had untreated exercise induced asthma at Mystic) have improved with each increase in milage.
While the milage has gone up with each race so has the total time since I began running (about 2.5 years ago). I believe the number of months running has been the larger factor but as time goes by mpw will begin to dominate performance.
If I count my first race (only 4 months after I began running) my biggest improvement would be around 50 minutes. If I don’t count that race it’s the 9 minute improvment at Long Island 3 weeks ago.
Randy
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I’ve run 4 marathons
2000 jersey shore 2:56 (averaged 47 miles)
2001 Boston 2:51 (averaged 57 miles per week)
2001 New York 3:10 (averaged 62 miles per week)- injured but finished
2004 jersey shore 2:46 averaged 59 miles per week using modified pfitz
Steve
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I can’t speak to marathons of course, but my biggest HM improvement was over 21 minutes from the first year to the second: 2:47:49 versus 2:26:44. Weight had a lot do with that as I was about 325 during the first versus 300 for the second. 25 pounds doesn’t seem like much at my weight, even to me, but it made a huge difference. Since I ran it at 370 this year and turned in a god-awful 3:17:48, I’m looking forward to slicing that time by an hour or more next year.
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3:35 [1981] 1st
3:22 [1982]
3:05 [1983] P.R.
3:18 [1984]
3:18 [1991]
3:26 [1992]
3:13 [1993]
3:15 [1994]
3:41 [1995] boston
3:12 [1995]
3:36 [1996] boston
MikE
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