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- May 21, 2010 at 12:43 am in reply to: Joe Henderson’s column from the May/June issue of Marathon and Beyond #30194
well said, Ryan.
I think some of this can get people “in the ballpark”…so the “predictors” do have some use. There are just too many variables per individual, and per individual on any given day. I'm sure I'm not the only person that holds a PR at a distance untapered or undertrained, but you just woke up and said “I'm going to run something amazing today” for a race that's supposed to be a training run. Makes a person wonder how much is really mental versus physical. So if you believe and follow a program to run a 3:10 marathon did it work, because you actually “did” run a 3:10….or did you brain just limit you to the notion that the best you could do was 3:10.May 15, 2010 at 2:28 pm in reply to: What changes would you like seen made to road races? #30151
It irks me when RD haven't “thought” out the possible scenarios such that Andrew described. As a masters runner, if the RD tells me “sorry, no double dipping” after the fact, then they should let the overall runner decide if they want to be 1st overall or 1st master. because sometime eventhough 1st overall may be $50 and 1st master is only $25……….just maybe the person would rather be recognized as a masters runner (for ranking purposes, or maybe there's a course record prize).
I ran a race a few years back that had an incentive for 1st person to 10k mark. I was that person. I also was 1st female. the second female to the 10k walked off with the prize before awards began. Had I taken the incentive prize, then overall would have went to the next female, and that was NOT this woman, she slowed WAY down after the 10k point. I really think 2nd place woman got the shaft. The weird thing is that neither of us knew of the incentive until after the race. Both of us were just running our race. People came up to me afterwards and said “your prize just left with so-and-so”. The 10k incentive was much bigger than overall…enough to get me asking the RD. RD said “no double dipping” (nothing was mentioned in prerace instructions)
I know there are a few others that have been at this for awhile. I'm really having trouble running faster, I feel that cardiovascularly, I'm extremely fit. I'm frustrated because it just seems that I can't make my legs go any faster, and I'm barely breathing. When I'm on my bike and doing intervals, my heart feels like it will explode. With running my legs “crap out” before I can get this feeling.
I'm working on some flexibility issues, do you think that this is the right direction??
Supposedly cadence should stay relatively the same as you increase speed, but I seem to float up pretty high..
How old are you now? As we age we can still be in great shape but max heart rate is a limiting factor. Unfortunately can't hold that 5K or 10K pace like we could, even though we're training just as hard.
That said, form drills do help with running efficiency and getting the most out of your stride.
46. my max heart has always been pretty low at 165. I didn't do any form of speedwork last year. I had alot of unexpected time off and really had to focus on running tired rather than fast. (had an ironman). I started this year with speedwork on the treadmill. My cadence was out of control…getting up to 240.
My massage therapist has noted a difference already. I think I need to make a better effort of opening up my hamstrings.
maybe there will be a “scorpion” in my future…….for now……”are you kidding me???”May 7, 2010 at 1:50 pm in reply to: Fastest races in WI that are certified or reasonably accurate #30079
Where about is Seymore?
West of Green Bay about 30 mins or so
the Tornedens can't be hard to find, Deb is still running very competitively in Kansas.
when I first started road racing I was lifting light upper body weights, my friends got on my case and said “totally unnecessary to lug that around”. Although I only lifted light weights, I looked like I was into body building, actually had someone ask to enter partners competition. I guess that's when i stopped lifting arms, but seriously my arms fatigued really bad when I moved to longer distances. I never could figure out if they “should”. My times did get better as my upper body faded to nothing :-May 7, 2010 at 12:58 pm in reply to: Fastest races in WI that are certified or reasonably accurate #30077
the bun run in Seymour is suppose to be really fast. (5k) I think it's certified, I've never run it.
I don't know, I think you can dislike running and still do it out of habit. I got tired 2 years ago, there was nothing new to motivate me, I've done it for so long. Decided to swim, it was so exciting because every day was improvement, it didn't matter that I was being lapped over and over by others in the pool.
I miss my long run workouts though, I would not mind giving up speed and tempo runs at all.
>:( I just want to watch it while I run. Trying to watch a bad feed on a laptop while running on a treadmill was a nuisance last year, this year it was downright dangerous. :-
I remember when 200m repeats were routinely at 28 and more recently I struggled to hit that in racing the 200m, though it admittedly was with essentially no workouts focused on the event.
Also never ran sub-30 (or sub-32 for that matter) in a workout. My best was a hand time 32-point. I'm talking the ultimate lack of raw speed. Thankfully, I seem to make up for that lack in stamina. I once remember running a small time 3200 against two others (I thought it would be both bigger and stronger competition). I ran a pathetic time and lapped second place twice, third place 5 times. They then convinced me to run the 100 also. I was first off the line but, within 5 steps, was in last and ended up well behind second. They thought I bagged the 100 but I swear I ran that harder than I did the 3200. I think my time was 16-point hand timed.
Of course, my lack of raw speed is epic. Anyone who has seen me try to sprint could attest to that.
I think it was seeing that Scott Douglas never broke 30 (not entirely sure of that one) in the 200m yet ran some great long distance PRs that first really opened my eyes to aerobic development principles.
I've always looked up to guys like Douglas because, well, never breaking 30 in the 200 or 60 in the 400 or 15 in the 100…that's me.
**picking my jaw up off the floor** really??? well, we know you didn't convert muscle fibers like many of us, you never had a fast twitch to begin with
I have never been thin by running standards. If I'm in the low 170s for 5' 10″ I am doing good. When I PR'd at Boston in 2002 I did get below 165. I got down to 158 once and ran terrible. I like to be around the 172 range, but have run good ultras at 180. It was never a real big deal to me if I was running a lot. I have to run to my ideal weight, trying to diet never had a good effect. A lot of it has to do with my natural big hips and thighs.
I could have written this. I ran my PR a little below what was my normal race weight and even at that weight 5'3.5″ 114# it isn't exactly thin. I like being 116-118. ran like crap at 110# which is 'still' overweight for female distance. I run pretty well up to 120#. over 120# the longer the distance, the more the weight will show……..but hell, i look good at 120# imho ;D.
interesting, I have a 50 minute rule and don't remember why or where I came up with it ???…………..although i do alot of 20-30 runs now, so it isn't a rule for me now that I've stopped marathoning
What is a PDR?
physician's desk reference. has everything you ever wanted to know about drugs, interactions, etc…
kind of on-topic: just read some thoughts from someone that coaches some high-level runners, he took 2 runners off the same allergy medications and their running performance changed in two weeks. I have to wonder what my drugs are doing to my abilities when some people are losing their hair on it. 😮
I wish I knew. I get them on routine training runs in my hammies and I can't shake this. Curious if my meds are contributing.
they could be depleting something. I'd probably see if you could get a hold of a PDR and look up possible interactions yourself rather than relying on what a doctor says…..doubtful that they even opened up their PDR before prescribing :-